GREETINGS FROM GREECE

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Nikos77
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Blev medlem: 22 okt 2013, 15:08

Re: GREETINGS FROM GREECE

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I would like to dedicate this video to my friend Peter: :mrgreen:

The crimper is an old prototype Gaep, that never comes out, except my prototype and wasn't good at all...but with the magic second stage conic crimper...finally after 3 years works quite good!!! 8)

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmS9aQM6Xws" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

kind regards! :mrgreen:
Nikos - Greece - Idiogomosi Reloader Cal.12 - Mec Grabber/9000/650 modded + Gaep 3 pistons modded + Cortini 4 pistons modded + Cortini 5 pistons + 5 x 5 stage super precision prototypes designed by me
culot
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Blev medlem: 15 maj 2004, 21:47

Re: GREETINGS FROM GREECE

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Nikos77 skrev:I would like to dedicate this video to my friend Peter: :mrgreen:

The crimper is an old prototype Gaep, that never comes out, except my prototype and wasn't good at all...but with the magic second stage conic crimper...finally after 3 years works quite good!!! 8)

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmS9aQM6Xws" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

kind regards! :mrgreen:
Nikos,

i may sound conservative, but the stage before final rollcrimp when hull stuck in crimptool, i don't like when this happens and it should irritating the crap out of me :)
I understand it must be that way for the final result you want,

/ P
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Nikos77
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Blev medlem: 22 okt 2013, 15:08

Re: GREETINGS FROM GREECE

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No Peter, that's not exactly and the things is less complicated in that way... :mrgreen:

My final crimp, is my design hybrid design final crimp that costs 45€, but the professional crimp of Cortini machine with the sping and the right geometry...costs 100€!!!

Link: http://www.cortiniepezzotti.it/eng/pages/crimper.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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So, if you want the real professional work...you have to pay more...but if you like my work...you have to pay les...as always! :mrgreen: :D

Kind regards! 8)
Nikos - Greece - Idiogomosi Reloader Cal.12 - Mec Grabber/9000/650 modded + Gaep 3 pistons modded + Cortini 4 pistons modded + Cortini 5 pistons + 5 x 5 stage super precision prototypes designed by me
culot
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Re: GREETINGS FROM GREECE

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Nikos77 skrev:No Peter, that's not exactly and the things is less complicated in that way... :mrgreen:

My final crimp, is my design hybrid design final crimp that costs 45€, but the professional crimp of Cortini machine with the sping and the right geometry...costs 100€!!!

Link: http://www.cortiniepezzotti.it/eng/pages/crimper.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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So, if you want the real professional work...you have to pay more...but if you like my work...you have to pay les...as always! :mrgreen: :D

Kind regards! 8)
That crimp looks like the one i have on my press before gaep , a Ponsness & Warren 375C duo-matic

/ P
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Nikos77
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Re: GREETINGS FROM GREECE

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This is the professional crimper, of the Cortini industrial machine of 12.000 € cost and of the 2.400 shotshells/hour production! 8)

kind regards! 8)
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culot
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Re: GREETINGS FROM GREECE

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Nikos77 skrev:This is the professional crimper, of the Cortini industrial machine of 12.000 € cost and of the 2.400 shotshells/hour production! 8)

kind regards! 8)
Still looks like the one i had ( on the outside ) 8)

/ P
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Nikos77
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Re: GREETINGS FROM GREECE

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Of course, the outside is always the same Peter! The inside change the things! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Kind regards! 8)
Nikos - Greece - Idiogomosi Reloader Cal.12 - Mec Grabber/9000/650 modded + Gaep 3 pistons modded + Cortini 4 pistons modded + Cortini 5 pistons + 5 x 5 stage super precision prototypes designed by me
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Nikos77
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Re: GREETINGS FROM GREECE

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Peter, look here mate, what I have for you!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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kind regards! 8)
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Ugluk
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Re: GREETINGS FROM GREECE

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Nikos, the pictures you post are superb. You make the shotshells look like candy.

Why the 4-petal crimp? As opposed to 6 or 8 point star?
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Nikos77
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Hi Ugluk, the 4 star crimp give more power during the phase of the powder combustion...so in the heavy load shotshells could be able to help the high rpogressive powders to burn better! 8)

I did that kind of closure, just to try the mechanical limits of my machine and my accessories and just to have the confirmation of the Conic crimp I designed...works fine! :mrgreen:

kind regards! 8)
Nikos - Greece - Idiogomosi Reloader Cal.12 - Mec Grabber/9000/650 modded + Gaep 3 pistons modded + Cortini 4 pistons modded + Cortini 5 pistons + 5 x 5 stage super precision prototypes designed by me
culot
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Re: GREETINGS FROM GREECE

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Nikos,

I see he use Z2M & SuperG wads , is this becouse they have softer collaps- section ?
They never use stiffer GT wads in this loads??

I hope they will run this loads in manometic barrel , the loads with A1SP 1,90x32 catch my interrest a bit ..

/P
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Nikos77
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Blev medlem: 22 okt 2013, 15:08

Re: GREETINGS FROM GREECE

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Hi Peter, I am not sure at 100%...but they seems like using softer compression wads, for the 13 to 14mm and harder wads, for the 15 and 16mm free hull space! 8)

Kind regards! 8)
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culot
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Re: GREETINGS FROM GREECE

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Nikos,

You see in this pict the same problem i had with buffred loads, buffer migrates down to powder !
Thats maby ok with plastic granulate buffer like Mix47 , but organic oat-meal :? :?
if you store a load buffred with oat meal in to high air humidity ( above 40% )
i think they can have a problem.. americans with their tighter compressor formed hulls seal better with buffered loads.
i bought once fired hulls from states in the 90:s for this kind of loads, and it was expensive in 90:s and way more expensive today...

Q : do you now if this low wad pressure loads will work with heavier loads like thce 1,90x36-38gram using A1SP powder
or is the problem , you can't find a wad low enough ?

/ P

/ P
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Nikos77
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Re: GREETINGS FROM GREECE

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You don't need to store your shotshells, you have just to reload them and to take them to hunt the ducks! :mrgreen:

About the wad pressure, we have to see that chapter on the next days-weeks, as I am waiting my new special third stage crimper...

Kind regards! 8)
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Re: GREETINGS FROM GREECE

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Early experiment in america include meal , kitchen floor etc etc but non of them was ideal .
The best was ( and still is) plastic sperical granulat ( buffer) , oat meal may be a cheap solution
But it's not a modern way to buffer loads.

/p
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Nikos77
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Blev medlem: 22 okt 2013, 15:08

Re: GREETINGS FROM GREECE

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Peter, probably you have to learn new things...as I am learning also that things! :mrgreen:

Here we are with the new pics and with the VICTORY of the new technology prototype crimpers, for over 13mm of free hull space!!!! Finally I did it!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Kind regards! 8)
Nikos - Greece - Idiogomosi Reloader Cal.12 - Mec Grabber/9000/650 modded + Gaep 3 pistons modded + Cortini 4 pistons modded + Cortini 5 pistons + 5 x 5 stage super precision prototypes designed by me
culot
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Re: GREETINGS FROM GREECE

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Nikos77 skrev:Peter, probably you have to learn new things...as I am learning also that things! :mrgreen:
Kind regards! 8)
Yup! The Greec whana learn me bake bread :lol:

I still have some spherical plastic buffer left, but nothing i'm taking up again..

Maby i will start fiddling with larger free space in hull this winter ( now it's the most intensive hunting season for me )

But i will see some real pressure and speed numbers of this contradosi loads, an how they perform in standard 35m range using normal 0,50-0,75 choke

and off course " normal barrel"

/ P
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Nikos77
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Blev medlem: 22 okt 2013, 15:08

Re: GREETINGS FROM GREECE

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Peter, look what we have here :mrgreen:

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And look also what we have here :mrgreen:

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Kind regards! 8)
Nikos - Greece - Idiogomosi Reloader Cal.12 - Mec Grabber/9000/650 modded + Gaep 3 pistons modded + Cortini 4 pistons modded + Cortini 5 pistons + 5 x 5 stage super precision prototypes designed by me
culot
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Re: GREETINGS FROM GREECE

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Nikos77 skrev:Peter, look what we have here :mrgreen:

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And look also what we have here :mrgreen:

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Kind regards! 8)
Sweet! :) what kind o price are we talking about for the dispenser ?

/P
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Nikos77
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Re: GREETINGS FROM GREECE

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I am not sure about the price, but you can ask directly the factory via email [www.cortiniepezzotti.it], write them in English!

Regarding the ballistic tests, I have some results to post, but keep in mind that I have used 12/67.40 hulls and I have used the third stage, so I had change all the ballistic parameters of my shotshells!!! :mrgreen:

Kind regards! 8)
Nikos - Greece - Idiogomosi Reloader Cal.12 - Mec Grabber/9000/650 modded + Gaep 3 pistons modded + Cortini 4 pistons modded + Cortini 5 pistons + 5 x 5 stage super precision prototypes designed by me