HERETIC BUFFER - OATMEAL

[Nikos77]

Hi to everyone, here is the final results of the test that they've made some of our reloaders with that kind of buffer!!!

The first reloader has put the oatmeal buffer in some of his shotshells, since SEPTEMBER 2013 and the last week he cut them to see the results...after he left one shotshell outside of the house for all that time!!!



When he cut that shotshell, everything was fine, even of the sun and the rain!!!



The buffer once the hull was opened, just vanish from the lead, when turns the shotshell upside down and splash on the plate everywhere!!!




The second reloader has made the test in a less time, but he put the shotshells in the water for over 15 minutes and after he put at the sun for several hours to dry...

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Also in this case, the things was perfect!!!

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So, for us here in Greece, that spcific buffer is in used since last summer and every reloader who has tested says that probably is the best one!

Kind regards!

[culot]

I hope economy will be better in Greece so they can use plastic spherical buffer Italian use cork meal i heard.
I fiddling alot with buffer in 1996- 99 in american loads, but when most hunting was/are inside 40meter magnum and buffer loads aren't needed..
and windy days buffer came in you eyes, and so that American double base powder i use ....But it's fun testing buffer ( any kind) most of it work
and improve patterns... but if i want pattern improvement i use SuperNik shot

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[Nikos77]

That's the fact Peter! You never understand that this special kind of buffer, doesn't have problems with the windy conditions and it's separates from the lead, after 10 to 15 meters distance from the shotgun barrel!!!

So you can perform at least another 10 to 15 meters, because of that fact, and you can see better concentration and penentration on the targets and also to see the duck explode from the power of that shotshells!!!

Kind regards

[culot]

That's the fact Peter! You never understand that this special kind of buffer, doesn't have problems with the windy conditions and it's separates from the lead, after 10 to 15 meters distance from the shotgun barrel!!!

So you can perform at least another 10 to 15 meters, because of that fact, and you can see better concentration and penentration on the targets and also to see the duck explode from the power of that shotshells!!!

Kind regards

Can you control this effect? and you must have a raise in pressure...

btw: have you fiddling with steel shot yet in Greece ?

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[Nikos77]

Since 01/01/2014 we need to use steel shot also here in our country for the ducks!!! Regarding the bar pressure, there is a 5% drop, as that kind of buffer helps the lead to pass easier from the barrel!

kind regards

[culot]

Since 01/01/2014 we need to use steel shot also here in our country for the ducks!!! Regarding the bar pressure, there is a 5% drop, as that kind of buffer helps the lead to pass easier from the barrel!

kind regards

if you can find Vectan sp2 in Greece i have some stout steel loads, you will have link in PM

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[Nikos77]

ye Peter, we have SP2, SP3 and SP8 for 58€/kg...

Kind regards

[Nikos77]

Well, after a year and something that I have talked here about this special buffer and after 2 years and something that I have tried to make some test with video and pics...the shooters of our new shooting clay sporting camp they make me the surprise last Sunday here at our little island and they make me the best present!!!

Here are some links that they prove what I said at the time...

Pics - http://www.idiogomosi.com/pages/posts/t ... o-1256.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Vid.1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdTiL1MSx0c" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Vid.2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zp-tZmKvrTc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Vid.3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZimM6urzZw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Vid.4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jvN6DgawxM" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Kind regards!

[Hakapiken]

I had to buy oatmeal today to try out this buffer. Americans say you must be allmost suicidal to try out buffered loads.... Well , i think it is not that dangerous....or I am willing to take the risk I loaded up with VV n320, 1,55x32+1g buffer z2m21 and 1,55x32+1g buffer sg22. I'm still alive! Nice dense patern with 1/2 choke at 35 meters and not much recoil. I have no idea of speed. I am at my cottage and forgot my chonograph at home I think it's safe to go up 0,05 g on the powder and 1g on the shot. I will try it on paper tomorrow.

J.A.

[Nikos77]

Hi Hakapiken, please link the last links on my previews post and also the today links to your american friends!

Today links with 120 buffered shots

Review with pics: http://www.idiogomosi.com/pages/posts/a ... o-1266.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScPkG7rKrqY" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

To convert a normal shotshell to heretic buffered shotshell, you have to make -1.00 gr lead and + 1.00 gr oatmeal buffer, without powder variations

Kind regards

[Nikos77]

Dear friends, here are the new 95 shotshells with this kind of buffer on the Cortini website in English by me

Link: http://www.cortiniepezzotti.it/eng/pages/fda.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Link: http://www.cortiniepezzotti.it/eng/page ... da-224.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Kind regards

[culot]

Hi Nikos,

whats the goal for this loads , hunting or clays ? if we talk clay competition they are illegal, and if we talk hunting there's still one problem with a average hunter in Scandinavia
don't raise his gun for a bird behind 30m . It doesn't matter if you can hold the pattern at this extreme distance if you don't master the technic place this pattern on the target,
and i can assure you most hunters have big problem behind 35m. I don't say this loading technic isn't interesting, and if we in Sweden like you in Greece should not be allowed use
decoys and calls we may have to go for this.

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[Nikos77]

Hi Peter, decoys and calls are illegal here, so we have to shoot over 40 and 50 mt the ducks and the wood pigeons!!!

On the clays that kind of buffer is legal, but we have to stay inside the limit of the weight, so is you know how to use it...it simply works perfect!

Kind regards

[culot]

Hi Peter, decoys and calls are illegal here, so we have to shoot over 40 and 50 mt the ducks and the wood pigeons!!!

On the clays that kind of buffer is legal, but we have to stay inside the limit of the weight, so is you know how to use it...it simply works perfect!

Kind regards

Nikos,

I forget to say , only steel is allowed for clays in Sweden and i think in whole Scandinavia.

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[Whistler]

Depends on where clay is when the shot is fired.
A ground mounted clay may be fired with lead shot.

[culot]

Depends on where clay is when the shot is fired.
A ground mounted clay may be fired with lead shot.

you now pretty well what i mean and they are originally made to be thrown in the air, right !

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[Nikos77]

That's the fact Peter, because initialy that kind of special buffer was discovered in the past years in the usa for the steel shots!!!

Kind regards

[culot]

That's the fact Peter, because initialy that kind of special buffer was discovered in the past years in the usa for the steel shots!!!

Kind regards

I fiddling with buffred loads in 1996-98 and also in steel loads ,

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[Hakapiken]

I tried out some buffered loads last weekend.VV n320 1,55x32+1g buffer. Sg 22. Did some patterntesting at 35m with 1/4, 1/2 an 3/4 chokes. All chokes made allmost identical pattern density...? Very dense pattern. Still haven't messured the speed of the load. I have to do some more testing.... I have to buy more oatmeal. My wife used my buffer for baking bread

[Nikos77]

Don't use closed chokes, just go with cylinder, **** and *** for your initial tests and remember to cut and divide the petals of the wads in order to make better paterns!

Kind regards