Ny Remington i .350 RemMag

[mecke]

Hej,

Har läst att Remington kommer att börja producera nya vapen kammrade för .350RemMag (2003), det börjar med en karbin m/673 som skall vara en vidareutveckling av den gamla m/600 Mohawk.
Själv skulle jag väldigt gärna ha en .350RemMag...

mecke


Är ni intresserade läs nedan:

Remington's New Model 673 Carbine
By Chuck Hawks

The first big shooting news in the year 2003 for big game hunters was the re-introduction of the short action .350 Remington Magnum cartridge. This fine medium bore powerhouse was first introduced in 1965. It was based on a shortened and necked-up 7mm Remington Magnum case. The .350 is a true short magnum cartridge, designed to work through .308 Winchester length actions.

Remington originally had two factory loads for the .350 Magnum. One launched a 200 grain PSP Core-Lokt bullet at a muzzle velocity (MV) of 2725 fps and muzzle energy (ME) of 3260 ft. lbs. The other used a 250 grain PSP Core-Lokt bullet at a MV of 2410 fps and ME of 3220 ft. lbs. Both were tested in a 20" barrel.

The .350 Magnum cartridge was introduced in the Remington Model 600 Magnum bolt action carbine. This rifle featured a number of controversial design features that were widely criticized in the firearms press.

Perhaps the most obvious feature was its laminated beech and walnut stock. Laminated stocks were rare and did not sit well with most of the gun writers of the time. This stock had impressed checkering, which never failed to draw criticism from reviewers. Its Monte Carlo buttstock was well shaped for handling magnum recoil but its forearm was squared-off in cross section and left a lot to be desired ergonomically.

Then there was the very short 18.5" barrel, which was so free floating that there was an unsightly gap between the barrel and the forearm. This short barrel was guaranteed to supply plenty of muzzle blast with a cartridge having the powder capacity of the .350 Magnum.

This ultra-short barrel was supplied with a nylon ventilated rib screwed to its upper surface. The trigger guard and the blind magazine floorplate assembly were made of the same material, and also came in for plenty of criticism. Most buyers fit a scope to new rifles, so the vent rib was not functional. Many regarded it as silly. The large ramp front sight had a racy swept back shape that, unfortunately, had a propensity to catch on brush and small limbs in the woods.

The action's polished silver bolt had a sort of "S" shaped, forward swept handle to get it far enough forward for easy grasping. This was due to the fact that the Model 600 series rifles shared their action with the XP-100 bolt action pistol. The oddly shaped bolt handle bothered the gun reviewers of the period.

The biggest single design flaw of the Model 600 Magnum was its very light weight of 6.5 pounds. This was far too light for a powerful medium bore rifle, and guaranteed heavy recoil. The severe muzzle blast from the attenuated 18.5 inch barrel, coupled with substantial recoil, scared off a lot of potential buyers.

The Model 600 was produced from 1965 to 1968, when it was replaced by the similar Model 660 Magnum, which had a 20" barrel without the vent rib, but retained most of the Model 600M's other design features. The 660 was discontinued in 1971. Remington had produced their .350 Magnum carbines for only six years.

But they had their good points. The well shaped buttstock made the rifles reasonably comfortable to shoot despite the considerable recoil. The action, similar in design to that of the Model 700, was extremely strong. The little carbines gained a reputation for good accuracy. And, of course, the .350 Magnum cartridge was deadly on all North American big game. For more about the Remington 600 series rifles, see my article "Remington's Model 600 Magnum Carbine."

Remington offered the .350 cartridge in their Model 700 BDL rifle from 1969 to 1975. Ruger also chambered their Model 77 rifle for the .350 for a short time. Neither sold very well.

Some 33 years after its introduction, the .350 was quietly dropped from the Remington loading list in 1997. That was many years after Remington had quit supplying rifles in the caliber. It's pretty hard to sell a lot of cartridges if new rifles to shoot them are unavailable. The .350 seemed to be obsolete, a good idea that never really got off the ground. (For more information about the saga of the .350 Magnum, see my article "The .350 Remington Magnum and .35 Whelen.")

But the introduction of the new, short magnum calibers .300 WSM and .300 Remington SAUM in the year 2000 changed everything. A great deal of publicity about these new cartridges was generated in the shooting press, and extravagant claims about their superiority over the standard length .300 Winchester Magnum were made. These new short magnum cartridges were introduced in light, handy rifles such as the Winchester Model 70 Featherweight and Remington Model 7 Magnum. Suddenly, lightweight rifles and short magnum cartridges were "in."

Winchester followed up the .300 WSM with the .270 WSM and 7mm WSM, and Remington added the 7mm SAUM to their cartridge line in 2001. Some gun writers had been suggesting in print and on the web (your correspondent among them) that Remington would do well to give the .350 Magnum another shot. A powerful medium bore short action magnum would seem to be a useful addition to the present lines.

Perhaps someone at Big Green was listening, because for 2003 the .350 Remington Magnum has indeed been restored to Remington's factory loading list. The surprise, at least to me, is that Remington has intentionally repeated many of the mistakes they made in 1965 with the Model 600 Magnum carbine by creating a new look-alike Model 673 carbine in which to chamber the .350 Mag. ("6" for its Model 600 heritage, "7" for its Model 7 action, and "3" for 2003--get it?)

The new Model 673 has a laminated stock made of 5 layers of beech and walnut laminates which look much like the original, a 20" free-floating barrel onto which (no fooling) is screwed a ventilated rib, a hooked front sight similar to the original that was famous for catching on brush, and a too light weight of only 7 pounds. The overall length is approximately 39.25". Remington describes the metal finish as polished blue and the stock finish as satin.

Clearly, Remington marketing people see the new gun as a nostalgia item and are trying to cash in on the high prices of used Model 600 rifles, which have become a scarce item. It might have been better to simply build the best .350 Magnum rifle possible using modern technology, but that is not the road Remington took.

Give the folks at America's oldest gunmaker some credit, however, for they did address at least some of the complaints leveled at the old Models 600 and 660. First, the superfluous ventilated rib is steel, not nylon. (It still interferes with mounting a scope with a large front objective, though, as does the bulky adjustable rear sight.) Second, the trigger guard and magazine floorplate are metal, and the floorplate is hinged. The release button is in the front of the trigger guard. Third, while still squared-off, the new forearm shape is more ergonomic than the old, and the point pattern checkering is cut, not impressed. The bolt handle is blued and checkered, and conventional in shape, since the new Model 673 is based on a Model 7 action. The bolt body is polished and engine turned.

Sadly, the old 600M's efficient Monte Carlo comb is gone, but the Model 673's new butt pad is bigger to spread the recoil over a larger area. The pistol grip has also been opened-up some. The 673's recoil pad is not ventilated, and the white line spacer is gone. Quick release sling swivel studs are supplied (but not the swivels and sling strap). Like its Model 600M predecessor, the 673 has pleasing lines. All in all, the Model 673 is just about the ultimate bolt action "guide gun" type of rifle: big power in a small package.

In addition to .350 Remington Magnum, the new carbine is also offered in .300 Remington SAUM. The latter has even greater powder capacity than the .350, and the muzzle blast in a 20" barrel should really be something. So should the velocity loss. I think I'll pass on testing that combination!

Since Remington discontinued the last .350 factory load in 1997, a new .350 Mag. factory load had to be introduced. The new load drives a 200 grain PSP Core-Lokt bullet at a claimed MV of 2775 fps (barrel length unknown). The ME of this load should be 3419 ft. lbs. At that velocity the maximum point blank range (+/- 3") of this load is 260 yards.

Since the basic Model 673 rifle weighs 7 pounds, adding a scope and mount should result in an all-up weight of about 8 pounds. The new Remington .350 Mag. factory load should generate about 25 ft. lbs. of recoil energy in an 8 pound rifle.

Back in 1965 I was selling guns at the retail level, and I special ordered myself a new Model 600 Magnum carbine in .350 as soon as the rifle and cartridge were announced. It was the handiest medium bore rifle I have ever owned, and I have had an emotional attachment to the .350 Magnum cartridge ever since, as can probably be inferred from some of my articles. As soon as the first of the current crop of short magnum cartridges was introduced I began writing that Remington should give the .350 Mag. another chance, and now they have.

Frankly, I had hoped that the .350 would appear in the Model 7 Magnum rifle with a 22" barrel and the Model 700 BDL rifle with a 24" barrel. The former weighs 7.25 pounds with a laminated wood stock, and the latter weighs 7.5 pounds with a walnut stock. Add about a pound for a scope and mounts. This would have offered the shooting public a choice of light and standard weight .350 Magnum rifles.

Instead, Remington has designed the new 673 carbine for the .350 Magnum cartridge. I sincerely wish Remington and their new Model 673 all the success in the world, for I still believe in the .350 Magnum. In fact, I will be looking to purchase a 673 in .350 Magnum for myself. But as much as I applaud its introduction, my fear is that the Model 673, like the previous Model 600M, is a little too specialized and will kick too hard to gain wide acceptance. So I implore the folks at Remington to add the .350 to the mainstream Model 7 and Model 700 lines as well. Both would be more pleasant to shoot in terms of both recoil energy and muzzle blast than the shorter, lighter Model 673 carbine.


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"However, one should never disparage a man´s wife, his automobil or his favorite hunting rifle"

[skai]

Roligt, så slipper man känna sig så ensam....

/skai

[jeppe]

Mecke!!
Jag lånade hem en Remington 700 med kort låda i kal.350Remington magnum. På bössan satt en hakmonterad Leupold 1-4*22 i mkt bra skick.
Rembygeln var utflyttad på pipan och kolvträt var mörkt och vackert ådrat. Laddverktyg och ca.80 st 250 grain hornady rn samt ca 50 hylsor. Pris 8000:-
Köpte inte bössan!!!! ÅNGRAR MEJ!!!! Tänker kanske bygga om en bössa som jag har till just kal.350RM.
/Jeppe

[mecke]

Visst är .350 Remington Magum en kaliber som man känner sug efter Jeppe!!
Och du skai skulle du tröttna på din .350RM så slå en signal.........

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Nu finns Remington M/673 Guide Gun på deras hemsida:
http://www.remington.com/firearms/centerfire/673.htm


mecke

"However, one should never disparage a man´s wife, his automobil or his favorite hunting rifle"

Ändrat av - mecke den 01/18/2003 23:44:43

[skai]

Tröttnar gör jag nog inte riktigt än jag har inte skjutit 25 skott med den än,

http://www.remington.com/firearms/custom/7KS.htm

är då åtminstone snyggare än Guide Rifle, men nästa år har jag bestämt mig att lägga 6,5an åt sidan och köra 350 rem mag under alla älgjaktsdagar, hoppas bara det blir fler än årets fyra.

/skai